Members of the ICF were used as consultants on the film. Posts: 16,777,215 BILL GARDNER Feb 16, 2006 21:30:30 GMT 1 . On leaving away grounds we were often herded down narrow terraced streets by policemen on horseback, on which occasions it was customary to call, in self-mocking fashion, "baa" or "moo". Anything to get as far away as possible from the authorities' stereotyped image of what they thought they had to look out for... "It was funny the way the beer monsters in their claret-and-blue hooped rugby shirts with donkey jackets regarded the new casual look as something tarty. No serious book on the culture would be complete without at least one mention of him. But when the real hard men got among the Stamford Bridge mob, they dismissed Chelsea as singers. Press J to jump to the feed. Singers was how I best remember them – vociferously goading you about how great they were. 'active' : ''"> You make sure you've no colours on show as you pass quickly by the away supporters' entrance to Chelsea's North Stand... We were a procession of Doc Martens. The next thing – the Old Bill pushed them away. I felt like crying. Because I was not scum. Geezer is an absolute gentleman and his presence will be sorely missed. Bill Gardner (born 29 January 1954) is an English football supporter, former football hooligan and co-author of books on football hooliganism.. Born in Hornchurch, Essex, Gardner came to prominence in the 1970s as a supporter of West Ham United and as a member of the Mile End Boys and not firm, the I.C.F.. Gardner was arrested by the Metropolitan police in 1987 as part of Operation Fulltime. This became, "Congratulations you've just met the famous ICF", when the ICF were the subject of a Thames Television documentary, Hooligan, which featured ICF members including Cass Pennant. Top subscription boxes – right to your door, © 1996-2020,, Inc. or its affiliates. [12][13] feels like there's been a hostile takeover of the support and everyone on the club gravy train knows it. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. So... interesting to see Bill standing a top the parapet and really sorry to hear he is ill right now. A little disappointed. Gary Oldman plays Bex Bissell, the leader of the ICC - Inter City Crew. Fozzie initiated a hugely witty chant that day, intended to mock the relatively rural setting of Ipswich. I had been to Highbury, but I took my cousin, not the North Bank. The ICF are also suggested in the 2009 film Green Street 2: Stand Your Ground. Select Post; Deselect Post; Link to Post; This ain't the club they grew up with or their parents or their parent's parents or their great grandparents had grown up with. It was an EXPERIENCE but good! Reviewed in the United Kingdom on January 8, 2020, Reviewed in the United Kingdom on July 19, 2020. great read Mr Gardner is an old school man no frills says it as it is. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. I had always been nervously respectful of authority, at least since my friend Heppy and I had tried to nick a Mars bar and a Twix from Boots in Chapel Street, Southport, and got caught by the female store detective. There was a problem loading your book clubs. nicky was always banging on about how the board need to go but they came apart like wet cardboard as soon as swallow made their minds up for them. It was the one time when our different philosophies as football supporters clashed. John Blake Publishing Ltd. ISBN 978-1-84454-261-1 I can't remember the name but we stayed overnight at 'Upton Park'. The nutters swore by them, but most lads didn't like the way they caused your boot to lose that classic look. "You've got to give One-Arm Babs his front, because he called it on: 'Where's Bill Gardner [the West Ham terrace legend]? ‘Afternoon, gentlemen, the name’s Bill Gardner.’ For the first time, Gardner himself reveals what made him the top man, including his innermost thoughts and his memories of the classic years for football fans. Money always talks, I only trust the guys on this sub, dan silver and HHS. Independent Premium. An ethical man who fought only amongst firms from other teams. try again, the name must be unique, You may not agree with our views, or other users’, but please respond to them respectfully, Swearing, personal abuse, racism, sexism, homophobia and other discriminatory or inciteful The ICF also make a return as the GSE in Green Street 3: Never Back Down. Good Afternoon, Gentlemen, the Name’s Bill Gardner He arrived to rally the troops, the main man in the InterCity Firm and his greeting passed into football fan history. Good Afternoon, Gentlemen, the Name's Bill Gardner. I attended virtually every match, home and away, in the 1978-79 season; the year that the punk band Cockney Rejects – managed by Garry Bushell, later the television critic of The Sun – effectively became the ICF's cheerleaders. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. What that means is, he kicked butt in the many battles between firms that were huge in the 60s, 70's, and 80s. Equally, violence could always be found, which Pennant and the ICF made it their business to do. See the complete profile on LinkedIn and discover Bill’s … Most liked. They ran off in the direction of the North End Road. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? We were all itching, scanning One-Arm Babs, thinking the first one in on him could be a new name to talk about when the time came to recite the story of the day. He is a genuine legend to anyone who's ever stood proud on a football terrace. But we have been, at least once, in the same stadium at the same time. Bill Gardner has only ever been himself - and that's what made his mark on football culture so great. In the Gwladys Street End at Goodison Park, meanwhile, I joined in the language of violence almost as wholeheartedly as I avoided the reality of it. To Everton matches, home and away, I wore a denim jacket lavishly decorated with badges – including one that said "Koppites are gobshites!" BG said he was going to march with the other groups once WHRFAG dropped out, which I'm sure emasculated the leaders of that group somewhat. Demand for this environmentally conscious product is on the rise, get ahead of the curve with this course. language is not acceptable, Do not impersonate other users or reveal private information about third parties, We reserve the right to delete inappropriate posts and ban offending users without notification, -1) ? to your comment. [3][7][8] The aim of this police operation was to bring football hooligans to justice. The title of Pennant's book refers to the message printed on the grotesque calling cards deposited with victims by members of West Ham's so-called InterCity Firm, of which Pennant was a leading "general". West Ham didn't just take the Shed, we used it as our meeting place for years. Nor had I ever fought for Everton. Extracted from 'Congratulations, You've Just Met the ICF', by Cass Pennant (published by John Blake Publishing on 4 April, £15.99). Cass Pennant is the author of. It's a bitter pill to swallow, especially for those brought up with the club at the core of their childhood. He was seriously fronting us all, taking one step forward then eight backwards as Gardner came out of the crowd. I must have missed something; what happened with the guys at WHFTV? We don’t share your credit card details with third-party sellers, and we don’t sell your information to others. He went flying, bounced backwards, only to come back all hyper again – a real loon. You can find our Community Guidelines in full here. Bradderswhu Global Moderator We Are The Firm. Everyone respected him and you needed him on your side. I'm doing a better job than you. Please try again. These are not minor fisticuffs, people. Log in to update your newsletter preferences, Monday - Friday plus breaking news alerts by email. Whether he was always Olajide Ikoli, then known as Animal, is a possibility Pennant does not explore. On the contrary, at the first sign of a scuffle, I used to walk rapidly in the opposite direction. It allows our most engaged readers to debate the big issues, share their own experiences, discuss Was with him on saturday sunderland. He gives a straight forward and entertaining tale about many, many classic battles between Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester United, Tottenham, and of course Millwall, amongst many others, Reviewed in the United States on March 26, 2016. We've passed all the Chelsea pubs, giving them the once-over... Nobody in them except Chelsea fans who don't want to know. I told him to eff off. He has never held back from dismissing lesser firms as being 'two-bob' and their fans 'bullies' where he thinks it's the case. As he did so, I booted him right underneath the chin with my steel cappers. 'active' : ''"> Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Most disloyally, not even Mugsy, Bean and I joined in. We never even saw them. A fascinating person who defies every moral stereotype of "football hooligan". Whatever one feels about Bill and Cass and the rest of them, this statement means the owners are a little closer to dislodging the club from its roots, which for whatever reason they have deemed to be necessary. Bill was purely a West Ham man who had no time for wasters. I always stood in the same place, a few yards from a frizzy-haired character known as Fozzie Bear, who used to hang from a stanchion with one arm and make provocative gesticulations with the other. Gardner spent more time trying to disprove that he was a thug than providing the reader with real action. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we don’t use a simple average. Bill Gardner of Beaver Plastics Ltd. introduces a building product called Logix ICF, discusses the pro’s and con’s relative to other traditional building materials, and gets you started with how to properly handle and install Logix ICF. Create a commenting name to join the debate. And now at last, he's telling his own, long-awaited story. He's … Cookies help us deliver our Services. The man in the quilted anorak was dead wrong about that. I was a respectable grammar school boy who, give or take a tricky gerund, could translate from the Latin Ovid's Pyramus and Thisbe. He, along with Pat Tate, Tony Tucker and Craig Rolfe, later started to get involved in the criminal underworld in London. Bill has 1 job listed on their profile. Oldest first, -1) ? What are they all up to now? The existing Open Comments threads will continue to exist for those who do not subscribe to Most of these books have very little to say about the game at all. Reviewed in the United States on September 8, 2012, boring,monotonous every chapter is remarkably similar with different locations,no dept to characters and is constantly reiterating that he is not a criminal.a very dull representation of troubled times, Reviewed in the United States on April 6, 2008. Lampard: "Andy, why don't you do everyone a favour and get off the pitch? Start your Independent Premium subscription today. See the complete profile on LinkedIn and discover Bill’s … View Billy Gardner’s profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. Gardner, Bill; Pennant, Cass (25 August 2006). I'm pretty sure that's why the backed down on threatening their own. ", Swallow: "Bollocks. All prices include 5% GST. Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, There are no comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, There are no Independent Premium comments yet - be the first to add your thoughts, Email already exists. Please select the appropriate price. [14] This mirrors a real life incident where Gardner himself had hot tea thrown over him by Manchester United fans. "We came out and all the Chelsea mob were waiting outside the pub opposite the North Stand entrance. But they gave respect when they saw how quickly the casual in the Lacoste would pull out a blade and squirt.". Born in Hornchurch, Essex,[1] Gardner came to prominence in the 1970s as a supporter of West Ham United and as a member of the Mile End Boys and not firm, the I.C.F..[2][3][4][5][6][2] Vietnam, Custer's Last Stand, and the films Gladiator and Zulu are all evoked in the descriptions by him and other ICF members of fights with opposing supporters.