@jakfrost Let me know if this works for you rpm-ostree is a system that combines package management from RPM and image management from OSTree into a system that allows you to layer RPMs over the base Silverblue image. Exactly 6 months after the Fedora 29 release, here is Fedora 30! In contrast I can't remember when I updated a system and something stopped working because 2 libraries were incompatible. Also, learn the difference between RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora. Try to think about these kind of experiences from your past, and imagine how Silverblue could help you there. Now it is time to take a deeper look and see what the project is about and how it works. You really need to look at the design of most modern(ish) operating systems in the last few years including Android and ChromeOS which are already mentioned in the article. In order to run the VirtulBox GuestAdditions, I need to install gcc, make, and perl. Afterward the OS was beyond repair; couldn't roll back or move forward. You can also find the long-term planning on where things should be in the voting thread. Actually maybe a bit slower since fewer libraries will be cached / memory mapped between applications if they carry their own copies. So often, a distribution would be held back on an old ffmpeg (perhaps patched with some of the CVE fixes by a distro maintainer who might not be familiar with the codebase) to isolate the churn of upstream. And with this date comes great responsibility. I have never heard of anyone doing that, and don't understand why they would. I was meaning consumer-targeted-computers (which includes laptops). So my questions are. The concrete goals of the Team Silverblue project are to provide excellent support for It is possible to make Silverblue work for both dual boot and manual If you don't change the set of installed packages often, and reboot your system daily to get the updates, then SilverBlue works quite nicely. But you are right, to use Silverblue or not can decide every person on there own. Like most projects, Fedora Silverblue has a website As I said most of my config is built around nix tools which are quite similar in philosophy to fedora silverblue. No joke. NixOS. Depends on the noob, and just because you never met a situation like that doesn't mean nobody else experiences too (disclosure: it happens all the time). I've worked with complete Linux noobies who were "forced" to use Linux in a VM daily and I've never seen this happen. Well even tails allows to install some packages after when you run it from USB. As usual, the Fedora team has worked hard on this release to bring you: If you are looking for additional information and exciting details around the improvements found in Fedora 33, please check the following link: As always, before installing or upgrading your system to Silverblue 33, make sure to check the latest known issues. The login shell got killed after a period of inactivity, in the middle of the OS update. foundation for application deployment and execution in Fedora Silverblue. It's been rough on occasion, especially around stuff like graphics drivers. How to Enable Fractional Scaling in Ubuntu 20.04, Budgie Desktop Review: A Beautiful Desktop that Looks Like Gnome. Anything in the bootloader configuration is not part of the deployment (from what I remember), and so it's mutable. Alternatively you can fall back to "rpm-ostree install" when preferred alternatives prove to be too much effort. So, my conclusion after all this years learning and having fun with Linux is that it was a waste of time. Before Silverblue, Red Hat and Fedora maintain a list of custom build scripts for all packages that apply patches and security updates. that requires a reboot every time you install anything. It’s a separate layer from the OS image, and rpm-ostree is one tool that manages both. If you want to get in touch with team members, there are several ways: by Matthias Clasen and Sanja Bonic – May 4, 2018. I’m planning on building a distro based on NixOS and was wondering what exactly the differences are between the two systems. Obviously laptops count as desktops for the purpose of this discussion, since we are talking about desktop operating systems, which is what laptops run. I wished something like silverblue existed back then. I have not seen a desktop in a corporate environment in over a decade now. I'm about to get a new laptop for work, I usually use Fedora. Fedora 30 has been released today! These lock down video and audio respectively, so that shared resources can't be misused by applications. or booted from a flash drive using Fedora Media Writer. It makes sure that two installations of the same snapshots have the same on-disk content. I run Silverblue on a machine I can afford to have not work at any given time. (unless they're hardlinks, or COW files probably) If it's not the same block on the disk, it's going to be duplicated in cache - whether it's the same contents or not. Immutable Operating Systems are more common than you’d think. From their FAQ: They are also adding per-application isolation of settings: I’ve been running many applications as flatpaks for over a year without issue. Even electrical/mechanical engineering workstations are primarily laptops now. I've learned Linux, for years I've invested time and money learning everything I could. It’s nearly impossible for a regular user to get the OS to the state when it doesn’t boot or doesn’t work properly after accidentally or unintentionally removing some system library. Silverblue. > How often does this happen? It’s a discord server with a bunch of tech minded people, designed to answer questions quickly and effectively. If you want a fully trusted boot system, you'll have to use features like Secure Boot to verify that the BIOS and bootloader have not been tampered with. I've been using it personally for the past few years. You have to install these via rpm-ostree but is very telling. This is a great option for those users who always seem to find themselves in trouble with mutable OS breaking. Thank you, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one who thinks this. It is therefore recommended that you read this user guide before deciding to > Another benefit is robustness. recommended practice. Sounds good to me. as standard partitions or an xfs filesystem. This release includes some exciting improvements, such as: You can find more details about all the new and exciting improvements in Fedora 32 at the following links: As always, before installing or upgrading your system to Silverblue 32, make sure to check the latest known issues. custom partitions without error, even if they are incompatible with confident that you can overcome any issues that you might encounter. Let's talk about Silverblue. The base, immutable OS image is one layer, and each RPM that you layer over that creates a new layer with the same bootable root but new RPM packages layered over top. But you can install packages from different versions of nixpkgs! There were over 150 words or word combinations reviewed in the process. If not, because you changed the inputs, it will simply rebuild (and then you can cache that result). It's not easy to share libraries across containers, unless they can be built to share a base layer in a stacked union filesystem approach. Sounds a bit inconvenient if something low level gets changed, no? to install the bleeding-edge version of IntelliJ alongside my otherwise stable packages. It is then able to query the binary cache to see if a pre-built version is available. In the end Silverblue was chosen because it had an available domain as well as the social network accounts. These include: /var/home (Silverblue has a symlink from /home to /var/home). This includes an overall summary of improvements common to all of our Fedora flavours. Silverblue, and it should be used with caution. and the Atomic Workstation is what we are producing, now under its new name, Flatpak should be ok, I think when it's run inside inaccessible containers it won't be. Check out our comment policy here. I understand the propaganda: it's good for everyone (who don't like dealing with Linux, the OS). Because of how NixOs works, such mixing of stable and dev packages won’t cause any problems in general. Anyway that's just one case top off my head. Do I have to make my own silverblue image to use nix. Instead of using snapshots it actually takes the Nix build instructions as an input. From what I know nix is able to run in android, chromebooks, freebsd, macos, WSL. Most Linux programs have a standard configuration directory. No one needs to worry about how much free space is left on an ro volume. I can apt-get install/remove anything, completely break my system, then reboot and everything is fixed! On the author of the single vulnerable library instead of the hundreds of authors of projects making use of it, yes please. With layering just the necessary packages, like libvirt and other KVM virtualization tools, and using Flatpaks and toolboxes to create a containerized workflow, you’re using Silverblue to much of its full potential. In each case, apps and containers are kept separate from the host system, improving stability and reliability.” These are the many reasons why I believe Fedora Silverblue may be the future of Linux. Fedora documentation site for more With Silverblue, only certain mounts can be manually specified as I did a bit of reading to get my head around the idea of Silverblue before going too deeply into it, and one of the major changes you need to understand is what you're running. Before we chose the name Team Silverblue, the team was the Fedora Atomic Workstation SIG, >Even when the processes are loading the libraries from different paths. People sit and work behind desktops. Which Android does reasonably well, but it is perhaps too restrictive for server/general use cases which silverblue is trying to address. All Fedora Documentation content available under CC-BY-SA 3.0 or, when specifically noted, under another accepted free and open content license. At its core, it is a variant of the Fedora Workstation which uses Nixpkgs doesn’t specify a version for dependencies anywhere, other than a few cases where certain libraries have multiple different derivations for different versions. You gain the ability to sign the rootfs which is good for security. It is also intended to work in conjunction with Wayland and the in-development Pipewire. By that, I mean that Silverblue is separated into multiple, distinct spaces that all work together to make the OS work together. Even if static linking is used, if some dependency is updated, all packages that have that dependency in its transitive closure get recompiled.