That changes the whole dynamic of the thing. The Chaos ending is pretty simple. There are no Light or Dark paths that lead to Light Law or whatever endings. The Neutral ending holds the less harsh option. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. People gladly cling to freedom, even if it causes suffering. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Hell, as strong as the Space Marine ends up, he can only hold his own against the demons because of the DEMONICA. The difference between Law and Chaos being that we don't believe that subservience to angels or "God" will lead to bliss. This looked like the best option at first. In the end, the Red Sprite destroys the Schwartzwelt, leaving humanity to live untouched by demons. We are shown images of pyramids covered in blood and what appears to be people fighting around it. Jimenez goes Chaos, Zelenin goes Law, and Gore comes back from the dead for Neutral. "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; weep, and you weep alone.". Maybe one or two would get kept as pets by the succubi or the fairies, but the majority face extinction. Without science, humans are powerless. Three paths (Law, Neutral & Chaos), three endings (Law, Neutral & Chaos). The strong survive and the weak perish. But in the end, I just couldn't take the same path for Strange Journey. Megami Tensei II for the Famicom has two possible endings, depending on some choices the player makes during the game. It has a strange appeal as people don't seem to care about anything, even their lives. wat? Zelenin's mercy on Jack's squad was the turning point for me; it was here that I started thinking critically about the different endings. Jiminez is a dick. "No matter how far a jackass travels, it won't come back a horse.". The Earth becomes a world of demons struggling against one another to survive. The ending literally shows gigantic piles of bodies in pools of blood. Other than that, there are three endings, as mentioned before: Law, Neutral, and Chaos. I just want to know sooner then later so I don't mess anything up. He only wasn't angry going in because he was explicitly identified as entirely self interested early on, and so he simply didn't care about anything that happened to anyone else before then. Most chaos reps are driven by anger. Incidentally, the Law and Chaos endings in Shin Megami Tensei I both suck royally, and the neutral … I find a lot to sympathize with in Strange Journey chaos. I think that Mastema is a creepy fuck and I wouldn't trust him either. All that's beside the point though since there's no way to prove we have free will anyways. Oh wait a second! You know, is not like Merkabah literally say the same thing in IV. Main characters can't be Light/Neutral/Dark. The whole point of free will is the pursuit of happiness anyways, so what's the point of resisting? They want to tear it all down to give everyone a fair shot. Demons are a reflection of humanity. What a load of it, you werent any bigger! But what if they did? Those are good points, and freedom is awesome, but I think that ideally there ought to be some checks on it to prevent it from turning into selfishness and thus harming the greater society. The chaos in SJ is one where life doesn't matter and comes and goes freely. The Earth remains a world of humans struggling against one another to survive. Strange Journey Wiki: http://smtsj.wikidot.com/. Angry at god. I told myself that even if the Chaos route sucked, I could still go Neutral to maintain the status quo. Demons overrun the world and regain their powers as the gods of old. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjBy7lQ7Dls. now playing shin megami tensei : strange journey [Complete All Route]. Angry at injustice in the world and society. Jiminez doesn't have that anger. I think the big difference is that Jiminez is motivated by compassion and Zelenin isn't. It misses anything like a point that actually makes sense to go off of. Isn't there a bad ending or something like that? For example, new Law ends with humanity bring stripped of their will to fight, so next time demons appear (and they will) then will humanity be able to defend itself? Humanity's corruption caused the Schwartzwelt to appear in the first place, so it's only fitting that they face up to the bloody consequences. Worst case, humanity's corruption causes it to reappear sometime in the future. "Killing someone is easy. The purpose of Chaos is to wipe out the evil humanity in favor of a new one, so that humans can flourish and rejoin their connection to the old gods in harmony. So you did. Hah! The ending text says that the impure are purged, but since Zelenin deems Jack's squad fit to live, it seems the bar for survival is set pretty damn low. I'm a law guy in every other game because the chaos reps think and act like children. Blood dances in that world. The closest thing to a "bad ending" there is is the Game Over sequence. General Atlus discussion is usually allowed as well. You all got together and sang hymns to God... probably felt like you were part of something bigger. It has you accept that reality and do your own thing. Treating everyone and everything equally based on their actions instead of their species. The human bias towards freedom is because in real situations remote rulers don't know how to best control you to maximize happiness. "No matter how far a jackass travels, it won't come back a horse." The whole point of free will is being able to choose whether you're happy or sad. There's literally no scene past when he fuses that he's not implied to be angry or aggressive in. Death to evil even when it's human, compassion for friends even when they're Demons. Y'know, every single MegaTen game i've ever played, I at one point purposely get the game over sequence, just to see what it is. They want to tear it all down to give everyone a fair shot. In the end, I chose to replace the world of human corruption not with a world of demonic violence, but with a world of harmony and peace. The whole point of free will is the pursuit of happiness anyways, so what's the point of resisting? Chaos is not about social darwinism. The fact that everyone gets to fight for their life isn't really everyone having a fair shot. Social darwinism doesn't imply constantly actively weeding out the weak just because they're weak. That's like calling erasing everything max equality, since by definition its the most equal. Yes, you can spin it as an opportunity for something else, as a well intentioned person who thinks that they can get people to use thier radical freedom for something else. Bear in mind, these were the humans that convinced her that all of humanity was beyond salvation. IV identifies social darwinism as an explicit part of the teachings of the ring of gaea. You do as you please and shape the world as you see fit. It goes against our every instinct, especially in the West, but it's the best choice on a few levels. I think that saving Bugaboo was a compassionate heroic sacrifice. Thanks. In practice though, most people would probably sacrifice many freedoms if guaranteed happiness as long as they didn't have it presented as sacrificing freedom. You just lost yourself.. The whole point of free will is the pursuit of happiness anyways, so what's the point of resisting? I wanted to side with Chaos, really. Do you seriously think mental mass castration bringing worldly factory bliss is a good thing? It's a close one between her and Argilla, I really can't decide haha, I kinda saw the 'romantic' chaotic world where people die over and over while people chase their desires somewhat appealing. The Schwartzwelt would be forgotten within a few generations and humanity would go right back to its violence, depravity, greed, and wastefulness. The Law ending offers a solution to the struggle: sacrifice free will in exchange for eternal bliss. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. They don't like "the system" and want to "break free". When I first booted up Bizarre Adventure, I already knew the gist of the plot. Games from the main series Shin Megami Tensei, Persona, Devil Summoner, Devil Survivor, etc. Building off your example I think people like gun-hoarding militia nut jobs are well past freedom-loving and into selfish - though of course, they don't see it that way. ^ I don't have official support but I guess the MC is light, cause the MC cannot start any active conversation with dark demons. She's better than people pretend, but she's not even the best law girl. They are part of life's cycle and embrace it. The closest thing to a "bad ending" there is is the Game Over sequence. They are part of life's cycle and embrace it. The existence of righteous demons in a new, Chaos filled world would serve as guideposts as to how humanity should live in order to preserve their relations with the Gods and ultimately with themselves. Strange Journey contextualizes the character arcs differently than most other SMT games. As a bonus, this option has the lowest body count by an enormous margin. I find a lot to sympathize with in Strange Journey chaos. Sacrifice culture for peace? It is a perfect Neutral/Law world because in such world there is minimized pain(Law), and those who are too extreme are immediately sent away(Neutral). In fact the word "darwinism" is in it to imply that its something that would just happen. Most SMT chaos reps never get deeper than teenagers angry at "THE MAN". Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Happiness is not black and white, and singing a blissful song for all eternity will not guarantee that you will be happy. Here's where the Law ending comes in. That is torture, and a lack of liberation will lead to mankind's collective suffering. In Strange Journey? Consider Huxley's Brave New World. In this one, Space Marine nukes the demons and Zelenin brainwashes the earth into singing the Lord's praises in blissful unity forever, trading freedom for happiness. Silence that disgusting song, putrid angel. Demon / human relations being better doesn't change that if war for the sake of war is a staple in this new world that things analogous to racism would be encouraged. It's a world that is facing unending stable cultural stagnation. No one commands you, no person and no idea. Peace exists for culture! It goes against our every instinct, especially in the West, but it's the best choice on a few levels. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Even if you do come to this realization, there is not much that you can do about it once Law has been established. World of Strength, death to the weak, etc etc. Amane is after you mentally divorce her character from her headband.